Can you anymore invite your friends from outside India to come here and visit you? I can’t! Its freaking shameful… and this time apparently the targets were the poor tourists…for whatever reason! I read that these so-called-terrorists were shouting that they want everybody with a British or American passport…
Its insane…Mumbai, our financial capital, being attacked by these handful of boys (yes boys) between 20-25 years in age…coming on a boat full of ammunition, landing on a beach and whoosh go the guns…and half of our commercial capital is a hostage to this bunch of boys… unbelievable! God only knows how many millions are spent on the ’so-called-security’ of hotels like Taj Mahal and Oberoi…for what? To welcome these assholes like this?!
A friend said that if still we don’t wake up, we deserve to be fucked like this….and I say…we are like those drunkards…yous hake them, they’ll open an eye, look at you, grin and go back to sleep! And they here doesn’t refer only to our politicians or higher authorities..its me, you and all of us!
A friend rightly said, “The scenes last night on tv were as we are talking about some debt ridden or insolvent country among turmoil of islamic terror like somewhere in pakistan or palestine or iraq.” It truly feels like that!
I know this is not the right time to dig old issues…because this one anyway is big enough for us to handle… but I like one more thing that he said…”Now one should ask those Marathi politicians why they are seeking help from NSG. They should deal with this with an “All Marathi” force. They were busy dividing the country on regional lines while terrorists were planning this.”
On a very different note, a thought just came to my mind… these attackers were all 22-23 years…I wonder how they put their life at risk for nothing?! I mean, how many of us will really put our lives at risk like this? What’s there in their minds? What’s that hatred, that passion, that abhorrence in their heads…????
Anyway…the bottom line still remains that this is one of the worst terrorist attacks on our country and IT IS SHAMEFUL!!! Isn’t this all crap getting very close to genocide?! Or do we already call it that?!
Another sad part is the loss of some of the finest officers that Mumbai had… Hats off to their effort! Its startling to see that the ATS Chief Hemant Karkare, who was coming out with a lot of information on some top ranking army officials and some Hindu radicals involved in various bomb blasts in the country is shot dead. Is it a mere coincidence? I wonder if anyone will evr answer these questions…. he whole episode is just not palpable… are we really that weak and stupid and insane… that just about anyone can come in and start their own battle in the country?!
On a very different note, a thought just acme to my mind… these attackers were all 22-23 years…I wonder how they put their life at risk for nothing?! I mean, how many of us will really put our lives at risk like this? What’s there in their minds? What’s that hatred, that passion, that abhorrence in their heads…????
If you would have the time and the patience I would request you to follow a post on my page on this.
On your post-
Though your some of your reactions are understandable and well founded. I wish you would not have written a couple of points.
And what are those points that you think I shouldn’t have written?
I feel these attack on Mumbai is what all Indians deserve and especially with people like you and the shit thoughts that thrive in your brains. People like you are never gonna rise to the occasions and would keep fiddling in the mud keep on indulging in the game of mud slinging. You talk about Raj Thackrey and Marathi manus and that marathi manus should fight for the cause you tell me did you go out and lend you bit of helping hand, if not do not ever comment of anybody.
Firstly you are nothing but a ignorant sack of shi**** who can open their dirty gutter (can’t say mouth) and spill out just filth and hatred. If you had your facts clear you would realize that most of the security people who have laid their lives are Marathi and believe me being a marathi myself I am very sad as we, Indians have lost some very brave people to some bunch of maniacs who have taken Mumbai at stake. Also if you think marathi manus has to do it he will and will proudly do it for all the rest of Indians. Marathi manus has in past and will keep doing in future its best for India. It was marathi manus who rose against the Mughal dynasty and overthrew them to take the Indian flag to Atak while everyone else in India was washing the feets of Mughals.
Secondly if you wanna know what Raj is doing let me tell you MNS has organized blood donation camps in various cities like Pune for the injured so before spilling out any more filth please get you facts cleared.
Finally this is not because you have targeted a specific fellow personally. I do not follow Raj either, its just that we need to rise above such cheap thinking. Politicians are keep gonna doing things for their own popularity and hog the limelight and such activities hurt someone in some form. One also needs to express their opinion on same, however we need to realize when should we vent out such feelings and this is definitely not the time. This is time to have a very larger perspective as it is hampering the credibility and economic growth of the nation. Hope you refrain from posting individual feelings at least in situations where we need to be a nation as a whole.
Sakshi,
Well the above person kind of makes it apparent.
You could have said that it is time for Indians to introspect when we are busy killing and beating our own people when we have such bigger scourges to face. Mentioning Raj Thackeray would have been fine, mentioning him as in: writing about how people in India are playing divisive politics (on caste, region, religion and even race) when we have REAL problems at hand.
However mentioning those lines on “all marathi” etc at this moment was inappropriate and immature to say the least.
I was refraining from commenting as I gather from past visits to your page that you are sensitive and so I only gave a cryptic indication. You can see my name and surname, I am not a “marathi”. I am a “north Indian” if one asks, though I am only an Indian, however the part on “marathi politicians seeking help from NSG” etc could have been avoided and instead you could have written a critique over what problems we are ACTUALLY facing and that we are actually doing. You could have definitely mentioned Mr Raj to say that, See, what was happening was wrong. The country as a whole is facing problems so let’s be united and face them instead of bad mouthing and beating and even killing our own country men.
Regards.
- S
Rajan,
The language in your comment was ad-hominem and utterly distasteful. She did give credit to the ATS chief and the Mumbai police officers for instance. So please stay on the ground and don’t go overboard with rhetoric. You could have pointed that out peacefully and made your point well.
Rajan – Thanks fo ryour comment here… and trust me I didn’t really feel bad… in fact I would say that our country do need ‘over-enthusiastic’ people like you… I would love to see you doing something more meaningful than vnting your frustration by commenting on blogs!
I think you got me completely wrong here…you probably just read one name and fumed…but that’s ok…I respect your own individual thoughts. However, if you read the mentioned para carefully, I didn’t condemn ‘Marathis’ there…did you rea dth eline where I said, “They were busy dividing the country on regional lines while terrorists were planning this.” I menat exactly what Shubhendu said… Its high time and these politicians should realize that we have bigger issues to handle and should, for heaven’s sake, stop creating these filthy issues.
But anyway… I hope I could clarify myself… I am sorry if I hurt any sentiments here…didn’t mean to!
Shubhendu – Thanks for the support but I really didn’t feel bad over what and how Rajan wrote his point..its his thought process and his opinion…and that’s completely ok. And I completely agree with what you said.. in fact I actually meant the same thing… it was just that I was quoting a frien there.. so didn’t change the language…I thought people will understand the idea behind it…but anyways… I gave my clarification and I hope you guys are not offended anymore!
Cheers!
There is no need to be ashamed – islamic terrorism affects all countries in the world.
also, Indian commando units are reporting that the terrorists were EXTREMELY well trained. these were not just armed “boys”.
very very sad to see this happen to such a wonderful country like India. my thoughts and prayers are with you guys at this time.
regards,
archduke, london, uk
Thanks Archduke… however “well trained” they WERE, we won
All the credit to our wonderful forces!
saw Barkha Dutt on NDTV today. she stands out among all those who were reporting the tragedy. first of all, i compliment her for the tremendous job she has done in these last few days.
many ppl had this sentiment while witnessing this tragedy but didnt speak of it because it was not the right moment yet while the operation was still underway. but now that the incident is over, she said on NDTV that out of this dark cloud there could well be a silver lining that this attack will unite us as one country and we will be able to put this north india, south india, all maratha thing aside and act and behave like indians.
the ppl involved in anti terror operations were from all over india. ppl gave their lives to save others whithout asking the religion or region they belonged to. ppl standing outside taj in defiance of terror were from all over the country and were there to show their support to mumbai. i saw one man saying, i am from haryana but i am a mumbaikar today!
thats why she said that our those politicians should learn something here who talk of all marathis in railways, govt offices in maharashtra etc… i guess sakshi´s post above should be taken in that reference. but i know we cannt do that. we need to grow up as a nation and evolve a lot more to be able to do that.
no doubt, the whole nation salutes brave men like mr karkare without even bothering to know which region or religion they belonged to and sakshi did the same above.
but sakshi what is more important is that i know you didnt mean to hurt anyone, so why apologize? please dont apologize because you didnt mean what rajan interpreted.
i stand by sakshi and agree with the underlying sentiment she is trying to push here. lets grow up and understand it. sakshi pls do sanitize the post of f words for the sake of maintaining the decency of this otherwise so decent blog. also why name any individual? we should fight the divisive mentality not any individual.
as usual, taking lot of food for thought from your blog.
cheers!
believe me Sanju – this week WE ARE ALL INDIAN.
almost everyone in the uk has been talking about this , in shops , in the street, at work etc…
india will pull through this, and will win against the terrorists in the end.
and yes indeed thoughtcourt – your armed forces have done you proud – especially those incredible brave “commando” forces.
regards
archduke,
london, uk
Sanju….huh…finally someone understood what I really meant…thanks! And yes, I agree I used some wrong words in the heat of the moement, which indeed is very unlike me… will remove them…
And regarding the apology… I think its no harm apologising to someone if you’ve hurt their sentiments even unintentionally…that’s ok…let it be
archduke… Thanks
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I can understand the indignation that is coming through in your post. But the problem with such a reaction is necessarily not a proactive one. In today’s world, the sharper one’s reaction is, the greater risk it stands of being shortlasting.
The real question for an Indian right now is – what can an individual do in such a situation? something useful but not necessarily exhibitionistic…
No offence to this person above.
But Barkha Dutt is a melodramatic reporter. Who has been taking reckless reporting to a new high.
Admiral Sureesh Mehta has said that she had been responsible for more deaths than pakistanis by revealing positions on TV, only to show that she was right on the way zone. Also, she asked an officer to fire an artillery gun, which exploded killing three and the Colonel lost his job.
This time Barkha Dutt did fine, but yes reporting in the Indian media has reached a low. It is reckless at best. The media people think they truly are heroes when in reality they are nothing better than the people they think are ridiculous.
Coming back, the Admiral is a very big position and he might have information that is not accessible to ordinary people. And I have every reason to believe that he was right about Dutt.
There should be a campaign for responsible reporting.
More deaths than Pakistanis during the Kargil war that is. Not now. Please note the correection.
* war zone.
templeoak – that’s right…its time for all of us to think what we can contribute as an individual!
Shaili – Thanks for the info… that indeed is startling!
thanks shaili for this info. shall dig into it. i have met her personally. i would say she has evolved since kargil a lot. ndtv’s reporting during this operation was commendable in that they were among the few tv channels who heeded the instructions from security forces and refrained from giving away any op details in their reporting. but i guess being present in any war zone is a very heroic task and must be commended. our army should also think of concepts like embedded journalists during operations like kargil for the sake of transparency. as far as the question of being responsible for death of young officers from armed forces is concerned, why blame pakis or barkha dutt, look closer. the fact is that we were caught napping and none is ready to accept that.
i second ur idea of supporting responsible reporting. am all for it! as long as news channels are allowed to reap profits from news reporting, responsible media would remain a dream only. why do we allow news organizations make money out of reporting? if press should not be state controlled, it shouldnt be a means of profit for any body either. in the garb of press freedom, ppl are running businesses which thrive on sensationalism and cheap publicity!
cheers!
Sanju,
We were caught napping is one thing, however going on the front lines and revealing our defence positions on TV for the Pakistan army planners to see is another. Also i don’t agree with your idea that no body is ready to accept that we were caught napping. The fact remains that whatever, we did act well on it. And having said that, if we were caught napping does not give journalists to do reckless reporting. My father is a commodore and has had Admiral Sureesh Mehta as his boss once. He is a person of great integrity. I assume that he is correct about security here. Vir Sanghvi, Barkha Dutt were quick to say that the Admiral was wrong.
And then we say that security forces don’t work, I mean who is responsible for security? Admiral Mehta or Vir Sanghvi? Ofcourse Mehta, so I trust his statements at once, I see no reason why he would say that unless there was some problem. He has no vested interests.
Anyway I digressed a considerable amount. He He
Transparency in wars in terms of people killed etc is desired. However, on the front lines there can be no transparency the way it happened in Kargil.
About responsible reporting, well English channels are still decent, the Hindi channels are just ridiculous. I get shamed thinking that these journalists can be seen reporting by everyone in the world.
Here is one line:
General V.P. Malik (retd), who was the army chief during the Kargil war, in his memoirs Kargil — From Surprise to Victory, had written in his book that after the war was over, he mentioned to Barkha Dutt that she had let out classified information in her “professional enthusiasm” by pointing out that the army’s next objective would be Tiger Hill.
But I wonder who’s responsible for giving out such critical info to these reporters? They should just not be allowed in vicinity!
thoughtcourt,
can you remove my surname from all above comments?
Well…I’m afraid Shaili I can’t do that! But what’s the prob with the surname?
Good one…
I just have one thing to say when I read the headlines in the press and see the live coverage in the media on these terror attacks – we Mumbaikars and the nation as a whole have become numb to these atrocities… My heart goes out to the innocent victims of this senseless violence. In the largest democracy, we are so inept that we cannot elect politicians who are less regional and more Indian, who put the country and its people before their individual gain. How many times will we hearr, after every terror strike, that the Center and the State had prior information on the attacks but did NOTHING about it… it is a shameful that the terrorists who attacked our parliament and were caught and convicted to the death sentence by the highest court in the country are still alive just because the politicians want to appease a certain community. One can just hope and pray that good sense prevails and we wake up to realise that enough is enough!
I touched upon the same at
http://steamingcupsofcoffee.blogspot.com/2008/12/blueprint-for-transformation.html
Do stop by…